Aristotle and Epicurus

Following my comments on the thought of Kant and Epicurus, I would like to look again at the question asked by a reader : “Do you agree with Epicurus that happiness can be seen purely in terms of pleasure, or whether Aristotle and Kant were right about goodness being more about virtue”.  I will now comment on Aristotle:

Epicurus may well have derived some of his philosophy from Aristotle (he was 21years old when Aristotle died).   I must emphasize that most of the writings of Epicurus were expunged by the Christians, so we do not have a full account of what Epicurus really said, and thus Epicurus has never had his full due.  He may have written as copiously as Aristotle. But this much is clear:

Aristotle and Epicurus had much in common.  They both believed in happiness as the ultimate end and purpose of human existence, and both believed in the crucial importance of friendship.   ( so as not to make this post even longer I am posting a separate summary of Aristotle’s views on friendship as a comment).

Where the two men differed was, broadly, that Aristotle called man a political animal and said that the highest form of fellowship was to be found in the state (polis).  Epicurus would have disagreed – his need for peace of mind ( and the dreadful times he lived in) precluded any such thing.  Observing modern day politics it is hard to argue with him.

Aristotle believed in God, while Epicurus believed that there might well be gods on Mount Olympus, but they didn’t involve themselves in the lives of mere human beings.  Thus, the Roman emperors approved of Aristotle’s insistence on taking an active part in the State, and the Christians hated Epicurus, with his wry dismissal of the gods.  Medieval rulers and Popes used Aristotelian ideas to bolster the Establishment (although, to be fair, Aristotle favoured “polity” or democracy as long as it had a large “middle class” element).   Some people look upon Epicurus as a libertarian; I believe he represented a form of humanist counter-culture.

Aristotle thought that happiness was not passing pleasure, nor was it virtue, but the exercise of virtue and the perfection of human nature. He thought that happiness depended on acquiring a moral character, including courage, generosity, justice, friendship and good citizenship, all of which involved striking a “mean” between too much and too little. Lastly, he considered that happiness required intellectual contemplation, because this was the realization of our capacity for rational thought,  and that this could only be achieved at the end of one’s life. It was a goal, not a temporary state.

“He is happy who lives in accordance with complete virtue and is sufficiently equipped with external goods, not for some chance period but throughout a complete life” (Nicomachean Ethics, 1101a10).

Note that Aristotle thought that women were somehow incomplete, half-finished men (thus influencing the good ‘ole boys of the medieval church, only too glad to have exclusive rights of leadership), whereas Epicurus welcomed women into his garden as equals. He was also a genuine democrat who debated with slaves in his garden, as well as women and poor people generally.

Epicurus, believed that pleasure was paramount in life.  Dear reader, please be careful about the meaning of “pleasure” in this context.  Do not fall into the trap of thinking, like the Christians pretended to, that this was about excess.  What is meant here is having a relaxed, pleasant, moderate life with minimal stress, enjoyment of your employment, sufficient money to support yourself, but not too much, the appreciation of nature, and, most importantly, the enjoyment of friends with similar interests.  There are no if’ s or but’s, no prior conditions, like virtue.  Virtue is taken for granted by Epicurus and is not a condition of happiness.  The argument is that, if you have friends who cherish you and enjoy your company, then you are probably unlikely to be a devious, grasping, selfish, dishonest reprobate.  Nor do you have to be an old man to be happy.  You don’t even have to be wise or outstandingly intelligent – just a straightforward, decent guy, who is looked up to and admired ( and can tell some funny jokes).

So I would vote for Epicurus and his take on life.  Aristotle tells us that the most important factor in the effort to achieve happiness is to have a good moral character — what he calls “complete virtue.”  Epicurus, on the other hand, was the born humanist.  No elitist he. Where Aristotle wants moral rectitude, Epicurus accepts that none of us, even the old and philosophical, are perfect.  His message is, “Come into my garden, talk to me about life, smell the roses, just be a human being, faults and all.

 

9 Comments

  1. Aristotle and friendship

    For Aristotle the enjoyment of friendship was more important than justice and honor. No one would voluntarily live without friends, but there were different kinds of friendship, the highest is one that is based on virtue.  A virtuous friendship is one that is most enjoyable since it combines pleasure and virtue together, thus fulfilling our emotional and intellectual natures.  This type of friendship is based on a person wishing the best for their friends regardless of utility or pleasure. Aristotle calls it a “… complete sort of friendship between people who are good and alike in virtue …” (Nicomachean Ethics, 1156b07-08). This type of friendship is long lasting and difficult to find because these types of people are themselves hard to find, and hard work, too.  Indeed,  Aristotle thought that one couldn’t have a large number of friends because of the amount of time and care that a virtuous friendship required. 

    • None of the ancient philosophers seemed interested in marriage. They thought it natural and was important for procreation, but anything connected with women seemed to be of no concern to them. Aristotle argued that only men and women likely to have children together should be allowed to get married. He did so without describing how he, or anyone else, could tell ahead of time. We still can’t.

      On the other hand, he did praise the friendship and companionship that husband and wife can have in old age

  2. None of the ancient philosophers seemed interested in marriage.  They thought it natural and was important for procreation, but anything connected with women seemed to be of no concern to them.  Aristotle argued that only men and women likely to have children together should be allowed to get married.  He did so without describing how he, or anyone else, could tell ahead of time.  We still can’t.  

    On the other hand, he did praise the friendship and companionship that husband and wife can have in old age.

  3. To be sure, this is a discouraging sentence: “They thought . . . anything connected with women [was] of no concern to them.”
    Still, I draw hope regarding such human blindnesses in categorizing human beings. e.g. “slave,” “woman,” “poor” “noble” etc.,

    There is one area of intellectual inquiry which gives us clues. James Hutton and the geologists of the last few centuries tell us of Deep Time, barring self-destruction, we have billions of years ahead to keep trying to get it right.

  4. As regards prevailing beliefs that Epicures propagated sensual happiness and i.e. the only aspect he is known for whereas his complete works have not survived or were wipes out,h ow has been being assessed by the thinkers and writers?

  5. Thank you for your question. Firstly, as you may know, the wiping out was done by the early christians, who deliberately misinterpreted the ideas of Epicurus and accused him of promoting licentious behaviour. Not a lot of his work is available, but gradually some has emerged, and he has influenced numerous thinkers, writers and philosophers. I suggest you start with an article I wrote a piece about this which is on the blog. The link is
    hanrott.com/blog/epicureanism-after-epicurus-the-influence-of-epicurus-on-western- thought/
    You will see it on the right hand columnof the main page under ” Epicureanism articles”. Let me know if you have problems.

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